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I'm hoping we can put in a solid 90 minute performance too. Good point re Tim, I know that Terry and the club will give him as much time as he needs. Thoughts are with you Tim.

Pitch Inspection at 3pm.

Pitch was waterlogged in places about an hour ago and now has started to throw it down, it does look increasingly doubtful.

Could it not be rearranged for Tuesday or Wednesday like Redhill did last week ?

After the loss against Walton i think the main 3 things for the Chipstead game are:

1. We NEED 3 points
2. We NEED a team that gives 100%
3. We NEED the things above for everyone involved and cares about Hastings United Football Club

So who would everyone have as starting 11 tonight ??

Must go attacking tonight I think, but not forgetting that we can't be left open at the back! Someone needs to fill that hole full time soon!

Line-up:

United starting XI: Pelling, Vickers, Cruttwell, Olorunda, Judge, Jirbandey, Hassan, Darby, Sawyer, Pogue, O'Connor.

Subs: Adams, Ellis, McCreadie, Woodley, Henson.

Full Time 0-2

it says it all when the best and fastest person on the pitch tonight was a streaker ....free the Hastings 1  !!!!! I can't even talk about the rest of the game because im just simply too angry !!!

Im always the type to look for positives but tonight I have none. The subs were baffling to me. Hassan and Tim were for me the best players on the pitch, we only looked like scoring from a Taser delivery

 

Too frustrated.  Lets hope we make a play off place now. 

John,
Too fed up to write much but I will comment one on thing which stunned me as soon as I saw the line up. You've guessed it ! Tom Vickers at full back.
Tom has been far and away our most influential player this year both scoring and making some of our best goals...so what do we do with him ? Well, move him to full back where he can spend the game just pumping aimless balls forward, of course. Absolute madness !
Very little positive to say about the performance. Far too much kick and chase football. Half chances (even whole chances) hopelessly wasted. In the end, just as well Josh was sharp in goal otherwise it could have been far worse.
Pat made the point on Saturday that there are just too many changes going on at the moment. Why not stick with the Guernsey line up ? We played really well and were ultimately undone by the ability of one outstanding player.
Suddenly the play-offs are looking much less likely and, from what we saw today, Leatherhead and co won't be losing much sleep over us.
Definitely hoping for a reaction on Saturday.

Can't pretend I understood the Tom at RB/CB move either when you had AH or even MD / TO as having played their recently.

A lot of people getting understandably frustrated around me to say the least and can't blame a single one tbh.

4 games without scoring out of 5 is not good enough for a team like us who should have been doing much better of recent.

Not sure I can blame the strikers as much as some will as service was horrifically poor although thought Taser really was prob our best player today getting mostly consistent crosses in until brought off.

I don't boo but can't blame anyone who's seen the last three games who did.

I'm not one to moan, but, tonight's performance and the last three results are utterly embarrassing. The lack of being able to finish is unbelievable. Not as bad as Saturday's performance by a long way, but left me utterly speechless.

Windy wrote:

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it says it all when the best and fastest person on the pitch tonight was a streaker ....free the Hastings 1  !!!!! I can't even talk about the rest of the game because im just simply too angry !!!

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 Won't be seeing the streaker again got a 3 yr ban from pilot field haha!!

He's the lucky one then after last nights display ...well done to those involved in catching him as the club could get fined for antics like that but tbf they should be fined under the trades description act too as that was not football last night .....still fuming !!!

As I can only get to the odd game I haven't posted but I like to see what regular supporters have to say, but last night's performance has prompted me to post!

As others have said having Tom Vickers at RB was crazy and I don't think we would have scored if we'd have played until midnight after Chipstead had gone home!

I don't think I've ever left a football game early, but after their 2nd goal went in I felt there was no point in staying.

A play off place looks a distant dream to be honest.

Unfortunately, another inept performance against less than glamorous opposition. I know we can still make the play offs but it seems pointless. What on Earth would we do at the next level without dismantling this hapless and hopeless team and starting all over again? Blame DW, TW etc all you like - it's the players who put the shirt on and have the chance to influence things. They're not good enough, don't care enough and should be ashamed of themselves.Once again, 300 people have been mugged and they deserve better. We would be no worse off if we promoted a few more from the U-21s and got in a few less 'talented' local lads who would run their b***ocks off for the cause. Formations and tactics don't win and lose games....freeloading, arrogant, BillyBigTime footballers do. I would suggest they donate this weeks wages to charity. Not fit to wear the shirt. Utter disgrace. My Grandad will be turning in his grave.

So we deserve to be fined do we? We could of been 3-0 up and that kid was going to do what he did, he was encouraged to do it by his so called mate for a bet so to say it was done through boredom is way off the mark. If this wasn't dealt with in the proper manner and left, what impression does that give to the other kids of his age? It'll be oh lets do it too, if that was the case it would have an impact on all the U21's who take advantage including yourself, because if that became the norm then I'm sure the club would withdraw free entry to U21's.

Should free entry for 18-21 be withdrawn ? Yes immediately and they can all blame this lad. But if club had charged this age group £2 to get in then this incident wouldn't have occurred or this age group paying would have covered fine.

I'm not saying it wouldn't have happened either. But part of growing up is learning to deal with money and choosing how to spend it. By giving away freebies doesn't help the young adults either. Sermon over sorry

Steve do you know the lad? I spoke to him and it was clear to me he had no interest in the score at that particular point, he was bet £30 to do it and was annoyed when his so called mate said he wasn't going to pay him. He admitted to me he was immature, that to me and others im sure, says all he was interested in only one thing and that was the money. I'm sorry but boredom doesn't come into it with this lad, I'm not saying it wasn't a boring performance at all, I never saw any of the second half and hardly get to see any first half of any game but obviously by others posts it was poor.

Pat if he had no interest in the game he may not have forked out £2

Actually - this streaker nonsense made me overlook possibly the best post I have read on here for years. Totally agree with you overthehill . Great post.

I see sean ray has signed for peacehaven, so he wont be coming back which imo is a shame.

Well that's a shock, a lot of rumours around the ground last night that he was coming back to us.

So JJ goes back in a couple of weeks, Gilbert has gone to Eastbourne. If my calculations are correct that leaves us with hapless Hanson and an out of form Judge. 3 defenders at least needed immediately! surely TW is not planning to play Vickers there again.

Plead Sean Kelly to come back n what ever happened to Rhys whybourne

Sounds to me like a perfect combination for an entertaining night of fotball, somewhat better than we are used too.

Look, I understand 100% that this cannot and should not be condoned, and completely agree with what Barry has said and the possible implications to the club. But you know what, on another bloody miserable night at the Pilot Field and after reading the Chipstead news, and watching the streak on Hastings facebook page, you just have to laugh. Everything is too serious and too miserable around the club at the moment and it has certainly given me some light relief. Sorry, but think we all need cheering up at the moment and cannot see the team doing that any time soon.

I was at the game last night,yes hastings weren't great ,but they were guilty of missing chances rather than not trying .hastings fans never seam to change .even when I was a steward down there when the teams doing ok the fans are fine,but a couple of bad results or a bad run there calling for the managers head.the supporters should get behind the team.best player for hastings last night was taser Hassan,he delivered so many great balls in to the box ,lots of pace ,the lad looks good.cant see him staying too long ,he is far too good to be at this level.as for the streaker no need for a person to invade a football pitch ,absolute stupidity and he should receive a life ban from the club .there are enough warnings put out about supporters entering the field of play etc.

Yes there was and he was certainly older than 21 and had paid a tenner for the privilege, obviously the exposure being on ESPN and a large crowd would have been a lot higher and was the obvious reason although the cameras didn't show it anyway.... Think they lost him in the crowd after if i remember rightly? Maybe wrong though.

Couple of bad results, a bad run, are you having a laugh, have you seen what's been going on? Totally disagree with your comments Daztoto. I think I've missed a dozen games in 3 seasons and during that time can remember half a dozen really dominating performances, so us true Hastings supporters are more than patient. We have quite simply been abysmal away from home recently with our home performance s not far behind despite our league position. So please, unless you have seen all the games this season don't say the support has always been the same because a lot of us have spent a lot of money and will continue to do so despite the garbage on show in let's be honest, a dreadful league.

Meant the taser Hassan performance john w?

I understand John that the streaker may have given entertainment and accept the point. I think we all had a chuckle but these things do have to be dealt with. He hasn't got off lightly at all Hastings bouy - again I accept this is all tongue in cheek. If the FA charge us he will get the bill as pitch incursions do get the full treatment from the FA and rightly so. I was cheesed off as I was going for my second burger and by the time we had dealt with it the food bar was shut!

I agree. Don't think will happen this season and as overthehill said earlier, most of the team would need replacing, so perhaps we need another season at this level. What we do need to do is revert back to 4-4-2 or 4-5-1, get some decent full backs and play people in their correct positions such as Tom Vickers.

Out of the current crop I wold only keep Pelling, Vickers, Sawyer, a fit McCreadie and Crutwell. I love Sammy and Danny, but they have to get their form back from yesteryear and Kenny P would need to bring more consistancy to his game. Need to judge Tasr over a few more games.

I'm gonna be inflammatory here. The last couple of games I've been at we've been awful. Us. The supporters. Very quiet, very quick to groan and criticise, very slow to encourage. You can argue that the team haven't given us anything to sing about , and people pay there money (including Dave) so have the right to voice their unhappiness. But it's a bit of chicken and egg. Let's try and be a bit more vocal in support and leave the negative stuff for on here!

Come on Dave we expect commitment and effort, which some are not giving. We can also expect to be entertained which we are not. Why shouldn't we vent our anger in the direction of those who under perform. And that includes DW who has under performed in his selection of manager.

Why shouldn't he be. Bearing in mind he hires and fires he has to take his share of the blame for the current shambles.

Its not nice to suddenly to be keeping an eye out on the scores from sides who are just outside the top 5 . . .

I don't think it would take to long a trawl through the older threads to find many many post verhemtly against against him as both a player and a manager from when he was in charge and also when he was still on the books as a player ranging from the usual cristism through to hoping he gets injured. So depends on your definition of forum 'sniping' but defiantly fits mine.

A majority of the fans in the ground prob did want him to stay on as a played but I would disagree that it was a majority of the posters on here where the effect is hugely greater and more long lasting once in print than opinions at the ground. Roughly 50/50 in my opinion like I wrote.

If he had of come back the same arguments about a former player playing for his manager and unsettling the team would have returned whether true or not. Not arguing that actual point either way but certain the discussion would have returned.

Peacehaven have barely any fans and therefore no forum. The small crowds at a winning team are unlikely and mostly unable to respond in the same way we all do and have done on this very forum for example. He's gonna have a good time over there and win a medal and possibly get to Wembley too. Dunno about money but assume their offer matched ours at least.

Do I believe or know that comments affects players sometimes sometimes ( but not always ) in a negative way?.... Yes

Do I think despite that, a forum for the fans to discuss all points of view both good and bad hugely overrides this issue of players feelings? YES 200%!

At the end of the day though all I was saying is put yourselves in his shoes and which option would you have taken?....

My point exactly Chris.

Lenny, Razor and Crellin are dual registered with Eastbourne United, and played together in the FA Vase.

http://www.eastbourneherald.co.uk/sport/football/united-blast-into-last-16-1-5837110

 

Overthehill wrote:

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 They might realise that there's 300-odd people who are passionate about the Club and want it to succeed.

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 Mmmmm this made me think....how many people actually post on this forum ? After going through this thread alone , out of the 305 that turned up on Monday .......24 different people have posted so far and some of them were not at the game ...on top of that 9 only posted once....Yes I must have too much time on my hands but its made me think about things a bit !!! I know there's loads that are registered but it seems always the same people posting ...Probably 15 to 20 regular posters ...just saying ...thats what Mondays game did for  me ,,,made me brain dead

 

Maybe the other 280 odd people haven't got the internet ...or maybe they are not as passionate as one may think.....just a thought

Hilarious. Believe that and you will believe anything, why talk in the 1st place if you are bothered by what 1-2 people said. Wish all these players / ex players would tell the truth, and not look ridiculous like Sean is here. Sport at any paid level is going to attract less than kind words when things go wrong, and too my knowledge he wasn't threatened. So he should just accept it as part of the job.

I have put it on record that I am Sean's biggest fan, and I have no doubt, despite what others think, that if he was still in charge with this bunch of players, we would be top the league, but I cannot accept that he had a last minute change of mind because of a few fans feelings. If all players had that attitude they would be leaving clubs all over the place. Just look at the sh*t Kenny Pogue took at the beginning of the season, but he didn't give up and has proved the majority of us to be wrong. Really disappointing news, as he is just what we need at present but I guess the Peacehaven money too good to turn down.

Liam in answer to your post. As players read this board why can't they respond to negatives made about them and the team on this board or on twitter, as long as they don't threaten or abuse I think there comments and explanations would be welcome.

Players post on twitter at all levels if they are allowed to by their managers/ club rules. Reading some of the players tweets it's obvious they read this board, I personally feel that they do well in not biting to some of the comments posted about them and agree totally with Dan about them being jumped on with anything that could be misread. I'm sure that Razors comments in the paper today has some truth in it if not the whole reason behind him not signing.

Poem from chipstead fan on Monday night event!! Haha

Off to Hastings we all went, to get three points was our intent.

 

We told the driver, hurry up mate, but we arrived ten minutes late!

 

The first half was pretty boring and neither team had looked like scoring.

 

In the second half to our surprise a streaker appeared before our eyes.

 

Across the pitch the streaker rushes, then jumps a fence into some bushes.

 

The streaker dressed in in bright red knickers clearly excited our top two kickers.

 

So thank you Dan (Moody) and thank you Will (Turl) for two great goals which fit the bill.

 

So all in all we had some fun and the Battle of Hastings the Chips had won!"

Of course constructive criticism is good, but, I recall someone hoping Razor got injured, or something like that, and although you can usually brush things off, I thought that was a totally inexcusable comment