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With Maggs now gone,does that mean we will be weaker in the transfer market,because of his so called contacts,or will Terry get more out of the bunch we've got?

He has gone Terry white clarent n blue army, come on ade and razor get back now!!

I have two conflicting points of view.
Firstly, I'm not sure what john added. Didn't take training, says little on the touch line and not much in the dressing room either if you believe the rumours. Other than Trevor, not much achieved on the transfer front either.
However, how does it look for the image of the club (and attracting future players) that we don't keep a well respected manager that has kept us in the top places all season.

Oops! Didn't realise Terry has been given the job on a full time basis. If my memory serves me right wasn't the football at the beginning of the season equally dire under Terry before Maggs joined? Good luck to Terry any how and let's hope he can get some quality in to the squad very quickly.

-- Edited by johnw on Sunday 26th of January 2014 12:17:03 PM

Just to answer one of Conquests points. - I dont think we could be weaker on the transfer market - we hardly saw any which was disappointing.

FatherXmas wrote:

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Let's all get behind Terry and create a good atmosphere at the PF. We were once seen as United's twelfth man and I believe enough supporters have wanted Terry from the start and this should been their opportunity to become it again.

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   I agree 100%. Whatever the reasons may be of the departure of Maggs, it did not work between him and the club.

I really hope this will be a very positive move although the fact remains that we need new players.

Mixed feelings.
Always felt JM was a very good appointment. He had experience, knowledge and, so we thought, excellent contacts.
However the transfer dealings have been very disappointing and I think we all were beginning to doubt our ability to make the play-offs....let alone win them against the likes of Guernsey and Leatherhead, despite our relatively strong position at present.
We have seen plenty of wins, particularly at the PF, but very few REALLY convincing performances where we have dominated, played good passing football and made chances.
Good luck to Terry.....my concern is that he really doesn't have the contacts and the perception that this is a club going nowhere may well prevent us getting the sort of players we need to storm this very average league.

Could never see why a club in the Ryman South needed 3 good coaches/managers. John Maggs-a very well respected figure in non-league football- found it difficult to turn things around at Hastings. If Jose Mourinho was manager I think he would do little better. There must be a common factor. The time is right for a change of the ownership structure. I've nothing against David Walters but if he is a Hastings United supporter surely he can see his way of doing things is not working. Is he able to work with other interested parties-if they exist? Hope he can see his way to asking others if they would be interested in being a part of more of a community based club along the lines of Lewes. Galling to see clubs like Lewes and Bognor playing at a higher level while we might struggle against sides like Rye and Eastbourne United.

I would stick Ben Judge in along side him.

Why not? Club captain, a wealth of experience, respected by players and fans. Don't think they will go down that route and Ben may not want it but just an idea.

Not surprised by this heard relations were pretty bad for some time. We just don't know if he was given a free hand or not.

Not sure how many managers we have had since the chairman has been at the club it must be some kind of record. With so many changes it cannot be the managers fault every time and surely. I think the chairman now needs to have a good look at his own position and question is he the right person to have this kind of job.

Since he has been here the club has slipped further down in standard apart from a freak FA Cup run. Yes we keep our head above water.

His record of dealing with the supporters is appalling as well as allegedly not being welcome in some away clubs boardrooms in Ryman Premier. managers coming and going and all this must contribute a good percentage of why decent players will not come to the club. Why would you?

By the way do we know the outcome of the Sussex FA charge that was made against him for verbally abusing their representative at the last Sussex senior tie? I understand this was sent to the FA headquarters to be dealt with.

So sad that my home town club is run by somebody that would fit into the North Korean government with ease.

My 100% percent support goes to Terry having now got this pioson chalice, how long before we have a falling out between the two of them. 

-- Edited by Barry on Monday 27th of January 2014 05:50:34 AM

Cousins I believe? Former Brighton boss Dean White I assume is Bens dad?

Barry, to answer your question we have had no less than 18 Managers /Coaches since the Chairman took over. Eastbourne Borough have had 2 and have played at a higher level all that time. By the way wasn't it Terry White who suggested John Maggs for the job in the first place. Perhaps he should also go as a matter
of principle.

I have mixed opinions about the decision - had high hopes for Maggs as somewhat of a non-league legend so it seemed. Performances did gradually get worse and that showed in the results. Transfers were little and relatively nonexistent. I would've given him more time however, maybe a couple of games just to see if it made a difference, that's why it kinda shocked me this morning. After Razor and before Maggsy, we had the top and we got quality results. Terry was our top goal scorer of all time during the 90s and that hasn't been beaten, he got like 35 goals in one season - not to mention he'll have more knowledge of the club than any manager could due to his last experience, so I reckon he's the perfect filling candidate until we find someone will more managerial experience. Go on Terry!

Good post Peter R. Completely agree

Can't disagree with that either. We were pretty much all in agreement but it has not been great

Things have been worse? Really? We're playing terrible football against terrible teams in  a terrible league; the club is a shambles; the best local players are elsewhere 'cos we can't afford them; the man at the helm doesn't appear to have any idea on how to run a football club. Supporters are isolated and kept in the dark. The ground is falling to bits. Something has to change. There's two options - carry on and regress, or get new people in at the top who actually have an idea on how to move the club forward. It's all very well sacking managers all over the place - a bit of self assessment wouldn't go amiss??

remember when we were in south before and before current owners when we struggled to stay up in ryman south and i think finishing bottom half with lovell in charge and lots of kent reject players. a lot lot worse than now football not great now but better than then. at least it show current owner not content with being 4th in this **** league and has ambition to get back to premier. hope ambition is match with money for manager and developing younger player for future

I agree Overthehill but isn't that the case with any side at any level that gets promoted that they need to improve? The chairman has said publically that there is money to get us promoted and given that we have had very little activity in bringing players in would it not be reasonable to say that the money is still there for that purpose? It's just a thought and in no way an unrealistic opinion that if there is an underspend in the budget then it could roll over to next season?

lenny you are the most loyal, honest, straight talking, big believer of the club i know.i hope you stay when mr walters goes i really do, you are an asset to the club (much respest)

The decision to get rid of the management team was I decision I agree with but I can't understand how you get rid 67% of it - bet Maggsy and Canty are feeling bowled over by White's loyalty but he has got previous !

I am not anti Terry White, but he wasn't good enough for the chairman in August, and what has happened since to make him good enough?

quite simple chrisb he wasnt good enough then so got dropped to coach so in all fairness would you go out of your way to get players in for some other manager that rolled in and got the job you wanted get the praise and benefit.no you wouldnt even for the benefit of the club.he has stayed with the club and is probably one of the most encouraging and passionate guys i have seen on the touchline, so i for one am behind him to do what this club needs as long as the chairman gives him the reigns and takes a back seat to what he obviously knows little about, let him do the business sides of things and let the footballers do there thing

Sorry sindy, the complete opposite is true.

Is it me or does Sindy's response to Chris make no sense whatsoever? Its been a long day.

sorry john i meant as far as the chairman thought white was not good enough at beginning of season hope that helps

understand what you are saying but a manager is there to manage the team to its best possible standard especially in higher standards, if a person cannot split mates from their responsibilities then they are not management material.it is called taking a job seriously surely.and my involvement in management is very successful thanks (although a different sport). p.s sorry about any spelling errors.

Sorry Barry, still recovering from Sindy's glowing reference of you. Just got my head out of the toilet. Honest......straight talking....... You must keep your mistress of this forum.

Damn I knew I'd put it somewhere but wasn't sure where.

purely bonus chris, you win you get rewarded

Check!

Kev Towner wrote:

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I see the vultures are out again!! There's been some pretty huge exaggerations here - not to mention some possibly libelous comments. The people who want DW out are the same ones that have had it in for him from the start, and for all their talk I don't see them coming up with a better idea. In fact, I'm not even sure of the last time some of them even attended a game.
There's no reason why we can't get out of this league - even at this stage of the season. A couple of new players wouldn't hurt - and I'm sure they will come.
Keep the faith - COYU's!!

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 At last a voice of hope in a baying crowd, well said Kev. Everything may not be right or as some want it, but it`s what we`ve got so lets get on with the job of puting the boys back where they belong, "Ryman Premier".

It does worry me how we must look to future managers and players outside of our club. No one will want to come here.

Also, dose anyone know why Cliff Cant has gone. I thought he was well respected in this area.

And forgotten....Good Luck Terry

hi all Horsham fan calling in

have read through this thread and am somewhat surprised at some of it although more than a fair bit is balanced.

have some points to add that have already been covered... but not from a biased Horsham perspective....!

one, the transfer policy. the lack of activity could just be down to your location. it must be difficult getting players to join that are out of your backwater catchment area. I doubt maggs black book contains a raft of players willing to travel back and forth to hastings. your location hinders your prospects. yeah you know that but some have obviously forgotten judging by this thread.

two.. a few comments about struggling to beat teams. at least you were beating more than a few of them! were some hastings fans really expecting the team to go out and whack every team in front of them? peacehaven have been the surprise package with an injection of cash this season, yet hastings are/were still right in the mix for the playoffs, or even the title. I am quite frankly amazed that your chairman thinks more upheaval will do your club good. yes there are still plenty of games left but bearing in mind point one.... unless you're paying mega bucks.. just where is he coming from?

finally and as mentioned by several on here, sooner or later a pattern forms. looking at how many managers you have had in recent times suggests something is not quite right. john maggs is experienced as a manager and a man. with that comes a touch of shrewdness without him being over the top (that's how I see it anyway). for him to come out with the stuff he did in your local rag says a lot. yes he played the press when he was with us, but it was low level and mainly involved cryptic messages about the playing budget. what he has said is quite strong by his standards and also quite damning.

the buck doesn't always stop with the manager......

csf

But do we know why? Was money made available? I don't know perhaps someone does