Yep, I was saying that last week. The players have been arguing with each other for weeks now. No chemistry, no strategy. Players were sending passes upfield with no plan and then turning to the manager and shrugging their shoulders when they get shouted at.
I understand Bradley is still injured but coming back soon but not sure one man is enough to fix this team. Sean clearly doesn't have what it takes to get the players on board. If they are arguing on the pitch thy must be arguing in the dressing room. I wonder if he's lost the players. I can bet Bradley's already got his dad looking at options for next season cause he won't wanna play in the southern league. They'll all go, except Lee Carey I expect.
I can't disagree that things are now getting desperate.
I can't complain about lack of effort but you can sense many of the team are woefully short on confidence and yet again we produced next to nothing from open play. Thought we had a half decent shout for a penalty at 1 - 1 but overall the police looked the marginally better side over 90 minutes. There's still a long way to go but games in hand count for nothing if you don't win them.
I feel we MUST get something out of Lewes..they're not the side they were and we can't afford to drop points to teams around us. I see also Carshalton got a win tonight (infront of 77 supporters) to put them one point behind us so we could be bottom come Saturday night... a very depressing thought....but to be honest it's all our performances have meritted over the last few months.
So do we twist or stick regarding a new manager ? I'm not sure it's going to make much difference to be honest. I feel it's down to the players we've got now and this is going to be a desperate scamble for a point here and a win there.
This is certainly the most pessimistic I have felt about our survival chances. Saturday has become even more important now.
I resonantly do think a new manager can change things. If you take a look at what Sean has achieved in his season, 4 league wins and a couple of cup wins that led to a historic FA Cup run. If you take his win ratio for the league its appalling.
If a new manager came in with new tactics, new belief, new motivation maybe he could get the players into gear again. As I've always said, quality is there. Just no tactical knowledge and players heads are down.
If Sean loves this club he should step back into an Assistant role, encourage Dave Walters to bring in someone more experienced that he can learn from for a bit and maybe step back in when he's learnt something about the managers role. Lets face it, a good player doesn't always make a good manager.
The club programmes have talked about must wins since the Lewes match. I was at the Thurrock home game in back in Feb, that was a must win, as was the Lowestoft game which we lost 4-1. Leiston on Sat a 'must win'. Tonight was also a must win, but we've lost them all.
Everyone thought we'd turned a corner when we beat Cray, little did we know it was the start of their their worst spell all season. Our form has gone from the side that couldn't stop drawing, with Sean talking about 'we must turns these draws into wins now', to the side that can't even get a draw against teams like Met Police and Leiston at home.
I've already accepted that we're probably going down this season. If you look at the form books we ain't looking good and unless something miraculous happens in the next few weeks, with a torrid run of fixtures coming up in April that's gonna see injuries and fatigue setting in against sides who've had longer breaks than us and are fitter than us there's nothing there that suggests our form should change anytime soon. We've put ourselves in an awful position, the weather can't be blamed, we should never have been in this mess in the first place. We should have beaten Lewes, East Thurrock, Thurrock, Cray all at home. We couldn't do it then, and we look even weaker now.
Also gutted to hear Elvis has has left. What a kick in the teeth.
We must have a new manager tomorrow goalie swearing at manager, players arguing with manager, manager has no respect from players, think we would be better off losing Sean as a player and a manager than have the disgraceful events on the pitch tonight, being repeated. Sadly if Sean had any self respect he would leave. And what's all this rubbish about Crellin doing a fun run in the middle of a hectic set of fixtures. Madness !!!
Apparently he and Dan Willett are doing it to raise money for the non existent Supporters Club. Not sure why they need money, I thought that's what members fees were for. Anyway, surely there are more pressing matters like the massive fixture pile up when were gonna need every player as fit and healthy as possible. Personally I'd rather see Crellin fit and putting his all into the team to get us out of this mess than see hi, raising a few hundred quid for a Supporters Club that surely could find alternative less risky methods of fund raising. Hold a quiz night, a poker night, do a darts tourney. Loads of stuff they could do if the money is so urgently needed. No need for a player to be running a marathon during a hefty fixture pile up. I'm with Chris B, its gotta be one of the most ill thought ideas I've ever heard. I presume Sean knows about this? Has he said anything? Or yet another indication that he's losing the dressing room. An issue I've suspected since Whitehead left.
Simple on current form we deserve to go down im afarid the manager is not up to it and should concentrate on playing we need sumone in asap who will calvanise the squad why do we keep playing out of form players?I keep hearing the players have got us in this mess its up to them to get us out of it what a load of bull sumtimes you have to be ruthless.4 wins out of 30, lowest scorers in the division, 1 goal in our last 4 games from a midfielde,r his signings have been poor too stone,daly,freeman,adams,hammond not one league goal bewtween them.HELP.....im not even sure if Bradley could save us?
You've gotta be kidding??? I'm sure they said he was expected to return in the next few days. Can't imagine we could let him go. We'd be expecting Ellis, Attwood and Adams to score all our goals. Hoping someone can clarify this soon as this would be a real worry if he's gone too.
Finding it increasingly difficult to disagree with any of the comments anymore. The on pitch arguments are helping no one, the short term loans are helping no one, lets get people in until the end of the season rather 2-3 games, as we have no continuity within the team, Bailo only being available for half the games is helping no one and Lee C captaincy is helping no one. Lee was dropped for a game because of his obvious lack of form and confidence and yet he is thrown straight back in as captain ahead of Vickers and Dee. Just dont get it anymore... are the management doing it to stick two fingers up to the fans or trying to prove a point? Im trying so hard to defend them but now running out of excuses.
Would love to be a fly on the wall and know DW thoughts on whats going on. Has he given Sean the dreaded vote of confidence? Is Lewes on Saturday Sean's last chance? not sure either way and the chairman has been remarkably quite since the FA Cup exploits but things are desperate now. Just cannot see the creativity or goals within the team to pull us through.
Bradley is back in training and has tweeted that he expects to be back this week.
Jamie is running the Brighton marathon on Sunday 14th sandwiched between Hendon home and away on the 13th and 16th and in the middle of 7 games in 2 weeks.
This Goldberg thing is getting silly now. Heard last night that the club is not in contact with him dont know if thats true but make of that what you will!
I refer back to what I said weeks ago (when I was called absurd!). Razor should have been asked to step aside after the FAC 3rd Round. If done properly it would have been a fitting way for the guy to leave his role after leading us on such a good run, and surely Sean would have rather his last game been at such a stadium! But no, we take the easy option, sack a coach (who should have been given Manager's job until end of the season) and carry on with it....we all knew that come this time of the season we were going to be in a scrap! Lack of foresight from the top. Its also typical non league management.... team reach FA Cup 3rd Round and manager takes the plaudits, team struggling to get a league win and its the players! There seems to be very little team ethic now, and in non league football if you haven't got all players committed and working hard for each other and the manager you are in trouble, and no ipad or lap top will fix it!
The most frustrating thing about last night was, for about 10 minutes, we actually strung some passes together and were playing quite well. As soon as we scored, that was pretty much it - everyone happy to sit back and stand off, as usual.
I still stand by the quality of football in this league is so poor that the 'quality' players make naff-all difference. I'm quite confident that anyone who plays Sunday league football and is really up for a game could perform. The only difference between any of the teams is who is up for the game most.
With the amount of times both us and the Rozzers knocked the ball out when messing up first touches yesterday, you'd have to be quite brave to disagree with me on that...
Ask me to bring my boots along on Saturday and I'd do the job for you Razor... I'd at least give 110% and kick the crap out of a left back who's just run 80 yards... I'm a damn-sight more mobile than Zac 'can't jump more than two inches off the ground, but I can at least make it look like I try to even though I'm scared of heading the ball' Attwood... And I reckon I'd score more...
I notice that the ever faithful who support the team no matter what are very quiet at the moment. Perhaps people are starting to understand just how bad this is. Teams around us will pick up points between now and the end and we look like we have the worst form in the league. I don't see us getting more than a couple of lucky draws. If we were playing better id think we could do it but its just not there. A couple of draws won't be enough. I can also see Carshalton and Lewes getting out of this. Bet Carshalton's confidence is up, they've won a few now. Right when outs is rock bottom. The worst time to get stuck into a massive fixture pile up that's gonna stretch and already very weak team. Only hope is a new manager and a new direction. Razor clearly can't get it to work. Nothing will change whilst he's still in charge. I'm tempted to write to Dave Walters and beg him to make some changes. I hate seeing my club being dragged down like this!
I'm not being quiet Jez, I have made my position clear so don't need to keep repeating myself.I have always understood how bad this is, and last night gave me fear of the drop - for the first time. I still absolutely believe though that Sean and Mark can get us out of this- but the players need to shake themselves off and get their confidence back starting on Saturday at Lewes.
It's not a case of being quiet for me, it's a case of we've been down this road only last week and I'm not getting dragged into yet another play ground spat. I've got my opinions others have theirs, as people have said if you don't like it then tough.
When some people struggle to put up an argument they return to the same comments without justifying them, hence why people get suspicious of people's views. I have still yet to read on this forum why Sean should stay, it's mainly having a go at people who put up an argument as to why with reasons why he should go, let's have the reasons why he should stay, and not the yawn versions of too late in the season, he is best man for job if so please explain why.
??? I'm not sure what else you want us to say that hasn't been said before. Whatever I say wont be enough for you by the sounds of it. You refer to us "constantly having a go" at people who put up an argument as to why Sean should go and yet fail to see that you are doing the same to anyone who wants to stick up for him?? I'm not getting into this game. People who discuss with me on matchdays know my opinion as does Sean. It wont change and i dont have to justify it at all.
I agree with Pat and I also don't think Sean should be replaced yet. He knows a lot of the players in and out and has the respect for them. Sean knows when things are going right and what's wrong and ensures this is worked on. We all have to believe in Sean and the boys and not put them down, as it doesn't make the morale any better!
Regards less though of how much Sean knows about the players and how much he knows what's going right and wrong, is that really that important? I'm not so sure it is. If he truly did know what was wrong with the team and had fixed it then we wouldn't be 2nd bottom with 4 wins all year. I'm not sure what you mean by Sean 'has the respect for them'. Not sure that really makes much difference whether he respects them or not. I personally can't see the relevance when were desperate for some leadership and ideas really.
We don't 'have to' believe in Sean and the players. They've done nothing to earn that belief really in my book. I don't believe in Sean personally. I watch him during games and he looks like a rabbit on headlights. Just doesn't know what to do. The stuff I've heard about the Met Police game from this forum makes me cringe. Of everyone's fighting then that's a definite sign that the unity has gone. Very hard to patch things up when players and managers fall out.
Self belief from the players, fans and the community took the team to the FA Cup run. Likewise, I believe Sean does have respect for the players, providing they try their best. Some days they are beaten by the better team, but alike last night, we threw it away. No, we can't afford to do this, especially at this stage. But with some belief from everyone, I believe we can get out of this situation. Football SHOULD be bringing all of the fans together to support a team and to all have something in common, not creating unnecessary divides. I, for one, believe.
The most frustrating thing about last night was that for an hour we looked relatively comfortable and matched a team that wasn't bad compared with some we've seen this season. For about 3 minutes I even harboured thoughts of a win but once they equalised I just knew how it would end up.
No lack of effort last night but too much hanging onto the ball and running into trouble and too much trying to play their way out in dangerous positions for my liking. The latter is especially unwise when you're trying to secure a win or at least hang onto a point. Was very depressed and very cold by full time.
I have to admit, I hadnt thought about Jamie Crellin doing a marathon in the context of our punishing schedule when our squad may be stretched. I think the most sensible thing would be for Jamie to pull out of it and for Dan to go round twice!
I personally believe it'll take more than fans believing to get us into winning form. It's been going on so long now this losing run that a lot of people are convinced nothing's now going to change. The first time Sean said it was a must win game we all got behind him. Despite losing we got behind him when he said the next game was a must win. The fans tried to turn out in force and do their bit the third time it was a must win. But loss after loss makes you think, what has Sean got left to say to those players. He must've tried everything in the book by now. Bottom line is he's not the man to do it. I believe it would take a new man with a new approach to revitalise the squad. I honestly do. And I'm not the only paying supporter to feel that way. Last time I was in the clubhouse it was full of discontented supporters having their say.
