After the loss last Saturday a new chance to get some points against
The Rebels are currently on place 5 in the table with 30 games played and they got 49 points.
From the 16 home games they played they won 6, drew 4 and lost 6. So 22 points with top scorers in all games Gayler,O'Neil and we all know him Mc Creadie with 12 goals each. Last Wednesday they won against East Grindstead 2-0.
They play at Woodside Road, Worthing
And we? This will be a difficult game but hopefully the team will show some spirit and with the home game coming up against Ramsgate it will be very important days for the U'ssssssss.
But like always, with the support of all the travelling supporters, we hope for a positive result.
I know they have played a few games more then others around them, but Guernsey just a few weeks ago were below us in the league and now they are in 8th place ? makes you wonder dont it ?
bad performance not sure what game plan was think 2 0 defeat was lucky for us as worthing could have had double figures if they shoot on target. depressing chairman say last week we wont go down. on that performance we will need a miracle.
the pitch was very bad but worthing are organise have lot of young players and never stop running going forward and at back
think there programme sum it up when it say 'it shows what can be done with a good manager who has instilled great team spirit in a bunch of young players who always give their best whenever they put on a worthing shirt. and all regardless of being paid'
Well that must be one of the worst displays that I have seen from Hastings in a long long time,we never looked like scoring and once they went ahead with their penalty that was it. As Peter R said they could and should have had 10 or more goals.
I don't think we managed a shot on goal all game, and even when we was only 1-0 down,which was most of the second half we created absolutely nothing.
Midfield was non existent and we were continually being caught offside and looked really unfit and sluggish all over the park. Sam Adams(surprisingly) had absolutely no impact at all in midfield and Evan Archibald was continually being knocked off the ball,while Kyle Holden looked a bit out of his depth today.
Taser on the other hand seems to get a lot of the ball down the right flank and you think that he is going to skin their left back,but this never seems to happen as I don't think he has the pace to do it.
The only plus point was Sean Ray and our defence who managed to keep the score down to 1-0 until injury time.
I know their pitch was really bad,but it is the same for both sides, but Worthing looked Quicker,Fitter,more organised and much more Skilful than us and their desire to win was greater than ours today.
Ramsgate on Monday is now a must win game.
Dan, we should have been fighting for our lives 10 games ago. I said a few weeks ago that I wasn't sure if we had the b*****ks to be involved in a relegation battle and sadly, nothing has changed.
Good wins for Redhill and Walton Casuals. Unfortunately our team appears to be getting progressively weaker as the seaon progresses. Didn't think much of Dom's rant on Twitter. Lot of hot air without exactly saying anything. Just like his spell as manager if you substitute saying for doing.
Donald - to be fair the team have had good support all season. It's time to roll up the sleeves and stop dreaming that we are too good to go down. Every game from now has to show some graft and backbone
The two club forums (should that be fora ?) and the Twitter feed make very depressing reading. Seems like we were hugely flattered by a 2 - 0 defeat and could have played all night and not scored. Anyone any idea why Ade didn't start ? I'm afraid Pogue and Archibald in front of a misfiring midfield sounds like an easy afternoon for most Ryman defences. Surely it's also asking a lot of young Kyle to start today ? Is Tim also not fully fit ?
I guess by far the most important thing now is to get a result on Monday. Ramsgate are in terrible form (one point from 18) and we may get an indication regarding our fate this season if things don't go well on Monday.
Looking at form, remaining fixtures and relative squad strength based on recent player movements, I reckon it's now not unthinkable that we finish bottom.
Someone convince me it can't happen !
Poor again today. Not good enough. Pitch was poor and got worse. Our finishing and ability to create chances was virtually non-existent...I hate to be do negative. We really do need to show what we are made of now, this is, dare I say it...a relegation battle...
Poor again today. Not good enough. Pitch was poor and got worse. Our finishing and ability to create chances was virtually non-existent...I hate to be do negative. We really do need to show what we are made of now, this is, dare I say it...a relegation battle...
I think all the nonsense that has been written on here about us being too good to go down has finally been put in perspective and even the most positive supporters understand that this is a big, nasty relegation scrap. I don't believe that the club could survive in the County League, that's how bad it is. What I don't understand is that most other clubs change managers, players etc. and see improvement. We don't. As I said after Nigel Kane's reappointment, it's same old, same old. If we cannot beat Ramsgate (one of the few teams who are worse than us) on a Monday night at home, then I cannot see us beating anybody. How may wins do we need to be considered safe and where are they going to come from? Thoroughly depressing.
I'm back for one post as I will probably get banned again 75% of us know what the problem is, the players know what the problem is, managers know what the problem is, and as long as that problem is still there the club will continue to go backwards. Wasn't there yesterday but hopefully will be tomorrow in a must win game. Anyway Je Suis HUFC Forum.
Anyone who was at Grays for the FA Cup game would already have had serious reservations about Nigel Kane, and for the those two dozen or so behind the goal that day you know exactly what I'm talking about. Sadly his football has always been fairly dull and one dimensional and for me he's just another Hugo Langton. I keep hearing how well organised he is and how he writes these 10 page dossiers on opponents and our own performances but I see no leadership from the touch line and his team selections are baffling at times. Does anyone know why Bright started yesterday and why he started in midfield with what we had on the bench? Why does he continue to pick Kenny On current form? It's almost become embarrassing how many times he is caught offside each game.
Ive commented on our away fixtures coming up on another thread and I would expect us to lose our next 3 fairly comfortably. Throw in our abysmal home form and I along with Mick am now thinking we could even end up bottom of the pile.
Tom Vickers was a massive loss and if Nigel thinks he can throw in the youngsters to get us out of this then we are already down in my opinion. We need some serious loan players in now!! What has happened to our old connections with Bromley, Gillingham and Charlton? There has to be players available to get us out of this mess. Previous managers have picked up Hare, Porter, Pell, Beautyman, Goldberg etc etc, what is Kane going to do???
Never wanted this appointment in the first place, it's just a safe, boring, uninspiring appointment. I would have chose Razor and Stapes, but that's just my opinion. In my mind Nigel has 16 games to become a hero or 16 games to go down in folklore as the manager who took us to county league. Either way this us surely one of the darkest days in Hastings history.
Hi Vernon,
Sorry, didn't make it clear that I was referring to this forum and the Worthing fans forum, not the alternative HUFC forum. I don't actually actually have that information but I'm sure someone will post it.
Have to agree with JohnW - dark days indeed. And Chris B posts an opinion that may well have more support if people were seemingly less wary of agreeing with it. The club is in a state, and in most businesses, in those circumstances, people who carry ultimate responsibility have to be brave enough to step aside and let somebody else have a go. It won't just be Nigel Kane that takes us down, it will be a collective thing but its the people at the top who have to accept responsibility. If the comments made elsewhere are true, and the club has such a poor reputation around the town, its time to change and rebuild. But it won't happen, 'cos we're too good to go down, we're a big club, we've progressed well since the Cup run, we're playing exciting football, hammering park teams, looking upwards in the league, preparing for Conference South, we champion stability and are prepared to accept honest and open criticism from supporters who have more years of collective, loyal support than the club deserves. So everything is good and rosy so why change?
-- Edited by Overthehill on Sunday 18th of January 2015 11:05:07 AM
Its not just around the town we are considered damaged goods its the whole football community in south east England we get said so many things when we are on our travels, its quite amazing we are a joke club at present and its time some of you realised this.
agreewith john w at time when kane given job. think us two only ones that said it but after bold and brave with Dom to take easy option was wrong and cant see anyone else could have been look at the decision was so quick. backward step and we will need a miracle. john good point about grays and Horsham away and yesterday same. at least with staply in charge burgess hill game there was passion. yesterday boring dull no creative lack in idea and spirit it felt like when we relegated from premier that fight gone and give up. to appoint from within and kane part of terry team that was not doing it at start of season just make no sense. know cant expect much in 2 games but not going to expect much.
You will not be getting any players from Gillingham because of the clubs reputation and one man has caused this. . Pretty sure the clubs from Gillingham to Bognor and all places in between won't send players for the same reason.
Hastings utd is in a sorry mess that I fear it will never get out of unless there is a change of ownership very soon.
Who's he upset at Gillingham and what are the facts?. There is always a lot of blame but never any facts to back anything up. If we have some evidence we can then understand people's concerns . We'll be blaming him for the weather and the crisis in Syria next.
By coincidence me & another Hastings fan shared a train back from London after work on Friday with a Gillingham coach who knew Hastings and our situation well. Of course we jokingly said 'can you give us any players' and he said immediately that compared to many of the non league clubs round there, players from that area just were not keen to travel and would rather go to clubs in North Kent and Essex. Josh Hare had Hastings connections anyway and I think lived locally so Hastings suited him but there are many clubs much closer to them that players prefer.
Shame the Bromley connection seems to have quietened down though. Sure some of their reserves could do well enough for us right now although it's prob more likely that Bromley would prefer they played Ryman Prem football. Likley to be the same with Gillingham, Brighton & Charlton etc too for the few players who would travel down to us anyway so a much smaller potential amount of players to start with. Unless a youth player at those clubs is based in Hastings then it's unlikely we will pick any up whilst we are in Ryman South over other clubs IMO.
so now it's the pitch's falt we were so bad. shut the door
I'm not saying it was the pitch's fault* that we were 'so bad'. We simply weren't good enough, which is what we've seen too much of this season. The pitch played a part in the game as neither teams finishing was good. At this level, a pitch will nearly always play a part in the game. We are extremely lucky at home to have such a excellent and committed groundsman that produces a pitch that is like a carpet each week.
We've heard the phrase 'too good to go down' far too much this season. We are not 'too good to go down', we've not been good enough for so long. Like Pat has said, we need to show graft and backbone to get ourselves out of this predicament. The table is tight at the bottom with only 15 points separating 21st (Hythe) with 7th (Whitstable Town). We sit in 19th with 31 points. Monday is a must win game - Ramsgate are in the drop zone and three points is crucial, but we haven I start taking our chances.
Both myself and my grandad have had a chat about Kyle Holden, and I don't know if anone else agrees, but his movement, height, composure has reminded us both of Bradley Goldberg. I see this as a huge compliment to Kyle but we can't rely on him to be the difference in our games. Yes, he was bloody brilliant in his debut and scored an excellent goal, but we can't rely on him. Nigel has said that he is looking to bring in more young players and if the football development side has worked like it has on Kyle, we have a very promising future of young players.
I also think its time we stop blaming Dave Walters for whats going on. Although the chairman of the Club, what more can he do? He's increased the budget for the second year in a row, to bring in players that should be making a difference. It has been the management side that bring in players and nothing much to do with DW. He even said to me that I knew about a Steve Brinkhurst coming in before he did. What is a change of ownership going to bring In? Dave Walters said all he could in th fans forum and if you're going to moan about him then you should've been there.
Sorry but the claim Gillingham won't allow us to loan players is completely untrue, only a few weeks ago we were going to loan one of their keepers however it would not of been financially viable to do so considering we wanted him for a county cup game and nothing else!
It's far too easy to blame the chairman all the time and quite frankly it's boring, he does not(for the God knows how many times I've said it) get involved with team selections or indeed bringing in players, this has always been left to the managers. As Liam has said he wasn't even aware of certain players signing until after the event during Doms short time in charge.
Whether you agree in Nigel's appointment or not I believe the biggest help we can give the team is getting behind them right now in this difficult time.
At the moment, given the size of town, crowds and playing budget we must be about the worst performing non-league side in the country. There must be a reason for this- but I don't think it is down to all the different managers we have had. Just hope we can get a win tomorrow evening.
I totally agree that we should get behind the players 100%, as hard as that is at present. And for what it's worth, if I was running a pro club, I'd have to think very carefully about loaning players to a struggling Ryman South team. I do fully respect Lenny The Lions views and his undoubted loyalty, which is highly admirable. I would like to ask whose responsibility it is that we are where we are? Managers? Players? Board?
Its obvious whose to blame, its all of us who spout negatively on this forum, as the players, manager and officials all read it and it has a detrimental effect on them. Well that's what some believe
Well according to message 11 it's the Hastings' supporters fault ! rebelrebels.proboards.com/thread/3169/rebels-hastings-17-1 Despite our wretched position/poor form and a pretty grim afternoon we still gave them their third best gate of the season.
When people talk about changing the chairman what is it that they are looking to replace? Is it currently an employed (paid or voluntary) position? Does he fund the club? Or is it a case of investing big once and now he owns? Just interested to try and understand what it is that would happen?
Not a regular any more so feel somewhat ignorant and not in a position to give an opinion. Looking forward to the game tomorrow, first visit to the Pilot Field this year.