After the last minute winner against Horsham we will have another big match against
On October 14th we won away against The Wasps 1-3 after 0-1 behind at half-time. Sam Adams 2x and
Kenny Pogue turned it around.
East Grinstead Town is currently the number 19th in the table with 30 points out of 27 games. 1 point less then we have but they have a game in hand. They have 2 new players in the squad since this week :Michael Campbell is the first new arrival at East Court this week, with Emiliano Hysi joining on loan from Ryman Premier side Dulwich Hamlet.
And we? A big relief after the Horsham game; 3 very BIG points and the first win for Nigel Kane. Let's be optimistic and with the support of a big crowd i will settle for the second win for Nigel.
The pitch was rolled today John, I can assure you that if there was anyway that the pitch was to wet to put the roller on Simon wouldn't of done so.....here's a picture of the pitch earlier today after Simon worked his magic.
Thank you Barrie; and thank you Simon! Let's hope despite the weather we have a good attendance today with lots of vocal support (like at the Burgess Hill game) for the team.
Big congratulations to kyle on his amazing debut and even better goal what a finish top right hand corner he deserves to start next game that's the good to come out of the game but my moan has to be our No11 he is not up to the leagues standards he was not tracking back giving ball away and just not trying he needs go back to where he come from we need fighters now not people who don't look interested!!!!
Yes young Kyle was great and showed us what is missing from the team. He never stopped running, was always looking to find space,was not afraid to get stuck in and capped it all with a great goal.Definately deserves a run in the team.However it is very clear that we need to get other signings as we make chances but are not putting them away,especially early on and it is costing us points. Also why Arrows27 do you single out Archibald from others who deserve to be criticised? He gets most of the balls in the air,shows more movement than many although doesn't score as many as he should,but then who else does.
I'm inclined to agree one, I've always thought Evan Archibald puts in a lot of effort. Was a great debut from Kyle Holden not just for the effort and great goal but for continually making simple passes and with a higher success rate than most of the team I only counted one misplaced pass. He played in my son's school team where apparently he was head and shoulders over the other players in ability if not stature. A real positive out of the day.
As for the game, more dropped points in a game we had so many chances to win especially first half despite east grinstead looking like they might score every time they attacked.
Can't disagree with your summing up Matt. I thought Kyle was magnificent and head and shoulders above all other players on the pitch. Looked like he had come straight from his paper round! How is it a kid of 18 can pass a simple 5 yard ball all game whilst seasoned players like Sammy and Tom feel they have to hoof it half the length of the pitch every time they have it. His movement, pace and skill were also very impressive. They both by the way had one of their worst ever performances in a Hastings shirt but can be forgiven as they always give 110%.
Defensively we look very average at the mo and set pieces are a real problem. Hopefully we now have a management team who will finally find us a decent left back and let poor old Sam battle for a place in midfield. It's not fair on the lad And he can hold his head high for the job he's done over the past 18months.
Midfield looks ok at the mo despite Sam and Tom's poor performances and we need Logan fit, but upfront is surely the new management teams biggest challenge. Pogue worked hard but just does not convert enough chances and looks really down on confidence whilst poor old Taser looks completely shot and we have carried him in the last 3 games. What ill say about Archibald is he has improved just a tad but still struggles, but I have a lot respect for him. All the other EP players have cleared off but he has stuck it out and fought for his place. There the sort players we want at the club although surely we must get a striker in on the quick even if it's on loan.
So another really poor performance against a really poor side as we slide ever nearer the drop zone. That Ramsgate game a week Monday is looking absolutely massive now.
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By the way, we had better start winning some home games and quick. Next 4 away games are against in form Worthing, Merstham, Folkestone and Guernsey with a certain Mr Allen back again.
Agree with most things already said, looks like we've got a real gem in Kyle, cracking finish!
I do rate Archibald and think he does batte well. Has he always been a left winger? on comparison to previous county league signings, I think he can be a decent player for us
For me imo and loads of people I was with do not agree with archibold being good as I don't think he is, not sure what game you was watching but he missed 90% of headers he went for. But kyle Holton was great and good to see youth out there. Now he's 16 they may play big dan in goal if pelling gets injured I do hope dave walters gave kyle a wage today he deserved it!!!!
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Back in August I happily bought into all the hype that this was going to be our season. Surely for the majority of our home games the question wouldn't be IF we beat these 'Noddy' teams but HOW MANY we beat them by ! Anyway.... I am now living in the real world....and the real world is three pitiful points from our last six home games ! Can anyone remember such a dreadful home run at whatever level we are playing at ? I can't ! In the early stages, East Grinstead looked like they had a death wish and regularly played themselves into trouble. But we lacked the quality to make the most of their incompetence and merrily wasted half a dozen good positions. Then of course we had two minutes of forgetting how to defend dead balls and with a third of the game gone we were in deep trouble and even getting one point would be a struggle. Really frustrating against such an average opponent. Personally I thought Tom and Sam did well in the heart of the midfield today and thought overall we won the battle in that area. While I wouldn't be over critical of Archibald today, both he and KP regularly struggle to make any impact at this standard and Taser continues to frustrate and too often fails to make that telling final pass or cross. And finally we come to Kyle....surely the one huge positive to come from today. Great energy and remarkable confidence for such a young lad....and a finish that would have had Alan Shearer drooling. I hope someone caught it on video.
After quite a few comments today I'm back, ( and Chrisb too if desired )
Football wise I said early on that EG were shocking but after going 1 & then soon 2 nil down we just couldnt break then down enough as they defended their unexpected lead.
Kyles introduction, performance and goal today was a breath of fresh air and hopefully a prompt for some of the others. I cannot see why any of the players are not fit enough to last 90 minutes at good level at Ryman South, I pay £60 a month myself to go to the gym 4-5 times a week just to play 90mins a week for the supporters team and have improved as I've got fitter so if anyone's doing less and being paid for it then that is disappointing to say the least
just play the kids if holden is anything to go by wed do better, energy fitness, sharp, simple thing right can pass, get stuck in and wow what a strike. the rest well to many dont appear to care.
forum interesting and feel for board. i think we often think that to much interfereing with team and manager from them but the feeling i get is they dont interfere enough and need to have a heavy had with what manger does. if budget is still high think need to cut it now because chairman said holden not paid today and better to have players want to play for club for right reason than just to get money
Arrows with all due respect, Dan may be 16 but he needs to be developed. And throwing him in at the deep end will not do him any favours, he should be nurtured and introduced into his own age group first to see how he gets on regularly there, that in itself is a good standard and is in my opinion of a par of Middle of county one. Let's not be to hasty in throwing kids in and ruining any talent they have buy making them run before they can walk. Kyle has been with us for a two or three seasons now and I first saw him when he came on as a sub when we had the reserves, within minutes of his introduction against men he made a crunching tackle and it was clear the boy had courage, he has been developed correctly, not just by Nigel and Stapes but also by Conrad and Bernie who took him through the U18's. Kyle still has a lot to learn, for example the cheap booking he picked up and he still made a few challenges which I thought showed a bit of inexperience. Just one other thing regards Kyle, I know when my lad broke into the squad DWwas good enough to give him a small wage, although no guarantee I would think He would also do the same with Kyle. The lad has bags of potential and as soon as I was told who the new manager was I knew he'd be included in the squad soon.
I didn't quite see the game as some others did, imo we conceded two soft goals from what I could recall was their only real chances, granted we didn't create many more but when we did we lacked bodies where we needed them to be to convert those chances.
As regards the chairmans forum I think you'd of done well to hang about for it.
Peter there is a good 3 or 4 that will in my personal opinion who we will be seeing before the end of the season but as I posted above let's not get carried away and introduce them gradually.
Barry regarding Dan I could not agree more and what u said is spot on and also what u said regarding the young blood is spot on too so all your points you made I couldn't agree more I just hope that Dan doesn't get too carried away as speaking to him he seemed confident he was the reserve keeper but as you rightly said barry and I said it to him it would not be fair on him to throw himself in at the deep end I was just pleased to see a young local lad given a chance today and my my did he grab it with both hands so good luck to all the youth that are filtering through to the first team they will all have my backing and support!!!!
Overthehill hope you don't mind the question but heard today that you don't actually attend any games? Heard you don't as far as people are aware at home at least but thought id ask the question outright to be sure? Not judging in on it but heard conflicting reports!
Almost everyone on here knows each other by sight at least but no one I know has seen you at a game.
Dan, certainly don't mind the question. Unfortunately, I do not get to many home games, being an exiled supporter. That has its disadvantages, as I can only make comments based upon others observations of the situation on this forum, and by looking at league tables. That said, it does allow me to view from a detached position with no direct involvement in the club . I would say that like everybody else, I want us to progress and move up the ladder, and not down it. I first went to the PF in 1967 and served the club in many capacities, both voluntary and otherwise. My last visit to the club was not necessarily a happy one, which distressed me greatly, and I found the general feeling around the club to be very different to the many experiences I had seen in the past. That regrettably left a lasting impression, and has perhaps clouded my views/judgement on how the club is run now, compared to my previous experiences dating back many, many years. If there is a sense and opinion that I should no longer post on this forum, as I do not attend matches, then I will happily respect that view and withdraw. I am, and always will be, a Hastings United fan, as was my grandfather before me. My personal view is that the club is on the edge and if we fail to stay up, it could be catastrophic. I hope you will understand, therefore, when I show concern for our future. The last 2 years haven't been anything to be proud of, and I feel that my loyal service to the club over many years at least gives me sufficient credibility to raise concerns about the club and it's future. As I say, if the view is that I do not have that credibility, I will not post any further comments. Thanks.
I admit that I have not seen him play but I don't understand this clamour to get Dan Rose, a 16 or 17 keeper who has played a total of 1 league game and 2 cup games for the Youth Team this season in the first team.
We have another young local keeper Perry McNamee who is 18/19 who has been with the Senior Club for 3 years, this season he has played 7 League Games and 2 Cup Games for the Youth Team and 2 League Games for the Under 21's, last season he made 16 appearances in all. He was due to play for the 1st Team in the recent Sussex Senior Cup game, until the very late signing of Sullivan. Surely he should be considered first.
Dan, certainly don't mind the question. Unfortunately, I do not get to many home games, being an exiled supporter. That has its disadvantages, as I can only make comments based upon others observations of the situation on this forum, and by looking at league tables. That said, it does allow me to view from a detached position with no direct involvement in the club . I would say that like everybody else, I want us to progress and move up the ladder, and not down it. I first went to the PF in 1967 and served the club in many capacities, both voluntary and otherwise. My last visit to the club was not necessarily a happy one, which distressed me greatly, and I found the general feeling around the club to be very different to the many experiences I had seen in the past. That regrettably left a lasting impression, and has perhaps clouded my views/judgement on how the club is run now, compared to my previous experiences dating back many, many years. If there is a sense and opinion that I should no longer post on this forum, as I do not attend matches, then I will happily respect that view and withdraw. I am, and always will be, a Hastings United fan, as was my grandfather before me. My personal view is that the club is on the edge and if we fail to stay up, it could be catastrophic. I hope you will understand, therefore, when I show concern for our future. The last 2 years haven't been anything to be proud of, and I feel that my loyal service to the club over many years at least gives me sufficient credibility to raise concerns about the club and it's future. As I say, if the view is that I do not have that credibility, I will not post any further comments. Thanks.
Can only reply with this that i also watch Hastings United from a distance.
My comments are also made by the judgments of other supporters who write on this forum and some of them i rate highly and the few games i see every year.
That is for me not a reason to stop writing about our club, nor should you.
The only reason I asked is that before the fans forum I said to someone that 'overthehill' would likely be there based on your activity on here so you could question DW and then someone said that you lived away and then became a conversation about if anyone knew you from the games being as Hastings is a small town and with your history at the club. Was not intended as a insinuation on your right to comment on here at all.
Lenny it was not serious really my comment about play kids but show the different between youth and desire and play for money. i hope kyle does not now get thrown in all the time, every now and again good but in time and in a team that struggle it could damage him although he looks tough for his size mentally is a problem and no point ruin him. as to talk of a 16 year old being a first team reserve keeper it make me laugh. think you can have very young outfield player and get away with it but in goal so different. think you would be looking at 20 or 21 before you think about a goalkeeper.
back to yesterday our defence is a worry and easy 2 goals for visitors and our attack worry to with little creative and no running off the ball whereas east grinstead did that well and think they value for the win. our play not dynamic enough our players stand and wait for ball and give our wingers no options. opposition team must find us so easy to defend because of our lack of moving. as well as kyle another positive yesterday and that is pitch back to wider now let use it
Re the chairman's forum I do feel that yesterday was a prime oppotunity for some people who post on here to put their questions to Dave, Simon & Dave M in a public space face to face and get their grievances and suggestions out in the open in front of a large amount of fans but on the whole that oppotunity ( whether through absence or choice ) was not taken up. Why was that?
Was expecting it to be a lot harder hitting than it turned out to be with 95% of the talk about the training issues that have been happening up to now with explanations and a debate about alternatives.
Well said Hammerfan not only do we have Perry we also have Joe Winchester who we know has been poorly but I do belive he's back in training now and personally think he can do the job if Josh Pelling gets injured (I'm hoping he stays injury free) personally I have never seen Dan play but I don't think he's good enough or experienced enough just yet 3-4 years time he maybe ready
It also would be nice to have keeper on the bench either Perry or Joe ...
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I admit that I have not seen him play but I don't understand this clamour to get Dan Rose, a 16 or 17 keeper who has played a total of 1 league game and 2 cup games for the Youth Team this season in the first team.
We have another young local keeper Perry McNamee who is 18/19 who has been with the Senior Club for 3 years, this season he has played 7 League Games and 2 Cup Games for the Youth Team and 2 League Games for the Under 21's, last season he made 16 appearances in all. He was due to play for the 1st Team in the recent Sussex Senior Cup game, until the very late signing of Sullivan. Surely he should be considered first.
Re the chairman's forum I do feel that yesterday was a prime oppotunity for some people who post on here to put their questions to Dave, Simon & Dave M in a public space face to face and get their grievances and suggestions out in the open in front of a large amount of fans but on the whole that oppotunity ( whether through absence or choice ) was not taken up. Why was that?
Was expecting it to be a lot harder hitting than it turned out to be with 95% of the talk about the training issues that have been happening up to now with explanations and a debate about alternatives.
Yes very odd Dan ,,, I know there were people there at the forum that constantly ask questions on here or pre and post match , but I didn't hear them asking any questions yesterday ,,I for one was just grateful to get the chance to question a few things ,.. And hats for those involved for giving us the opportunty ,,,I couldn't stay to the end but managed to get a couple of questions in
Is Steve Brinkhurst only at Hastings for a month? He has played well in the games I have seen. With Taser struggling with his crossing Steve might be more useful playing further forward. The same could be said about Sam C. Another average team, East Grinstead looked faster and fitter than Hastings. Couldn't face the forum in the clubhouse after another depressing 90 minutes.
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