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 Their Ground

-- Edited by BertNEC on Friday 26th of September 2014 08:55:36 AM

Come on Hastings! Time to stand up and be counted from DW down, Enough of the lacklustre performances an FA cup round win and new manager should encourage the whole club. Do it for the travelling supporters we'll be rooting for you, dont let us down, see you at Mill Field!

Just seen today's Team Sheet - why is Sean Ray on the bench ? Is he injured ?

Totally undeserved last minute defeat today. We totally dominated the first half against an average looking Greys team, really should have gone in at half time a couple of goals to the good. Second half started much the same, until Sam Cruttwell was taken off for whatever reason. And Rose was switched to left back, after having a fairly decent game at right back. After this, Greys caused continuous problems down both flanks, particularly their number 14. With about 20 minutes to go, Frankie was one on one with the keeper in the penalty area, but pulled his shot wide, when he really should have put Hastings 1up. After this, it was pretty much all Greys as the Hastings midfield particularly Cook and Dolan, were completely out on their feet. All the fans could see it, and we're screaming for a substitution, but it never came. And it was no surprise that Masters who looked out of his depth from the moment he arrived, gave away an unnecessary penalty. Despite this, there was still 5 minutes remaining, but still no substitutions! Which no one could understand.

Absolutely gutted for King, Sammy Adams, and the 2 Olorunda's who were immense today, King was my man of the match. Definitely an improved performance today, and didn't deserve to lose, but someone please explain, why we made no substitutions late on, when 2-3 players clearly had no more to give, and were passengers. I would also like to know what Bankole has done wrong, and why he was seen storming off to the changing room, after the goal was conceded.

So why name him on the bench? If he's not match ready, take Woodley, or one of the under 21s.

Jordan cup tied

The fact is we didn't have one player on the bench fit enough to change the game. That is not Nigel's fault, we had a shortage of players capable of playing at the level required today, and it cost us. I thought though we deserved a draw but that last 15 we were completely outplayed and sadly there was 5 minutes too many in the game!!!!

I agree with John's last paragraph why did bankole go and get dressed as soon as the goal was scored imo that's disrespectable he doesn't deserve to play for Hastings things need sorting very quickly we need more players like sam adams

Agree with pretty much everything that's been said. Players gave everything but on 75 minutes we looked spent and I would have thought Bright could have come on unless he wasn't fit? Bankole might have been back from holiday but surely he would have had enough energy for the last 15 minutes when we were flagging. Disappointing way to lose a game. Thought Sammy, The Olorundas and Kingy were class today.

A pretty good performance on a grassy but very bumpy surface; with, of course, a disappointing and frustrating finale. It was good to see so many of our supporters had travelled to the rather depressing (but friendly) venue.

Yes, perhaps some fresh legs might have saved us; but NK had very few options with injuries, cuptied players, etc. To my mind the change he did make - bringing Bryce Masters on for Sam worked out OK. Sam was not playing that badly (his throw-ins were excellent) but there had been a couple of occasions when he had been caught out. Bryce played an effective defensive game. Well done him and others who gave their best on the day.

Okay, going to try and be as composed as possible with this reply, but I imagine I'll step over the line somewhere...

1) Ade was immense today, as were a number of other players. They gave it everything and that's all I ask. Josh as normal was fantastic. Defense looked solid between about 20 and 70 minutes, there were three chances for Grays in the first 20, but we learnt from that and looked much better afterwards.

2) Tazor needs to just run when carrying the ball, and run fast. When he slows down and tries to get past players by being clever, he invariably loses the ball. Just run at them, hard. The guy against him yesterday was useless on the rare occassion he did this, he should have seen it. Also, lost count of the amount of times he turned his back to the ball when going in for a tackle, which was annoying.

3) Masters should not be playing at this level. As soon as he came on, the entire game changed. I assume he is related to someone in power or is paying for his place? I don't usually single out one player for a poor performance, but this was something else.

4) I stood and watched the management/coaches reaction to the players on the pitch after full time. None of them should get the permanent job. It was poor all around. Players were splintered into groups, management walked off the team separately from the players and it just looked terrible. The players should've been told how good their performance was, and that really been used to motivate for the league. What I saw was a bunch of individuals, with a weak management team. Noone should've left the pitch deflated, which is what I saw. You walk off the pitch, have a 10 minute talk, and then do a team warmdown. Not. Difficult.

5) I know this annoyed us in the past - don't leave crap (like sock tape) on the pitch when you leave. Someone has to deal with it - and it just comes across as poor again. We left a lot of crap on the pitch.

6) Not even going to get started on the consistency of the referee... Or what game the linesmen were watching... But basic, basic decisions were wrong for both sides. My favourite was when we were attacking down the left, and the ball went out of play by about four feet and we were allowed to play on.

Some strong words there Glenn and agree with most points made.

No one can disagree with any of your comments on point 1.

Taser was very frustrating yesterday. His set pieces are poor, his crosses are either brilliant or don't beat the first man and he bottles most 50/50 challenges, but don't most wide men? Still think Taser will come good and a very important part of the rebuilding required.

Masters has certainly struggled all season and the game did change when he came on but we didn't lose directly because of his  performance. In fact on viewing Dan's vid I guess Timmy and King were as much as fault as he was for the penalty but he did look vulnerable throughout and he has made a number of mistakes this season. I think he may be able to play at this level but he's not right for Hastings at this time in my opinion.

On point 4, personally don't really care what happens on the pitch after the game, I guess anything that needs to be said can be said in the changing room but I have to say I was still not inspired by what I saw yesterday from the sidelines. I honestly believe we lost yesterday's match not because of the players but because Nigel did not trust Bankole or Bright to do a job. Cook and Dolan were shot with 15 remaining and one should of been replaced as we completely lost the centre of the park. Razors injury was very unfortunate but we were still short of one sub. Is there really no one at all coming through from the u21s?

Couldn't give a toss about 5. See clubs doing it at the Pilot Field every game.

The referee was abysmal yesterday, but equally bad for both teams so no advantage gained from that.

I get absolutely no joy in seeing people lose there jobs but the sooner we get someone new in, with no previous ties to the club, the better. Burgess Hill seem to be doing a Peacehaven but everyone else is dropping points so still believe, perhaps foolishly, that the play offs are still a possibility.

Agree the team played well and gave everything.we had a number of good chances to score but could not put finishing touch. yes it was clear that we needed fresh legs for the last 15 mins so cannot understand why Bankole or Tempa was not brought on. Dissapointed to see that Jordan Johnson has gone to Walton Casuals according to Ryman web site as I thought he could have given us options. It also showed on Saturday how much we need Ade to remain fit as we have no one like him to deal with high balls up to the strikers.

I simply don't agree with the extent of the criticism (above) of Bryce Masters. Yes Sam C (as always) looks good going forward and Bryce is a much more defensive player, but I thought he played that role pretty competently yesterday. Yes, there were some errors but to my mind less than some of his much more experienced counterparts; and, yes, his introduction created a less attacking formation but that presumably was NK's intention - and I don't think it a demonstrably irrational one.

I find it always difficult just to criticize one player in particular, if someone is not good enough then you have to blame the manager for give him a place in the squad.
It is always a team effort and team result; we don't blame our strikers to miss so much chances.Or do we ?

Peter: Yes, you're right - the video does clearly show it was a reckless challenge by Bryce for the penalty. At the game I missed that. I thought (from the side at the other end) it was Jamahl who was at fault. My mistake. As for other errors by Bryce, obviously there was the one the previous Saturday, but others must have been at games I missed.

-- Edited by GeoffM on Monday 29th of September 2014 08:30:14 AM

And as much as I like you Barry I would much prefer you p*ss off back to the side in future.

I think Frankie Sawyer is an absolute shadow of the player we all know and love. Just cannot believe he is anywhere near 100% fit and worry he may have something serious that none of us know about . He's even lost that yard pace that used terrorise defences. Supporters and players talked about 30 goals plus this season but just cannot see it with the chances he is missing. A Frankie on top form is as good as anything in our league, Ross Allen apart.

Frankies had some type of reoccurring back problem all season hasn't he? saw something in the observer about it a while ago i recall? picking up the hamstring prob on top wouldn't have helped.

I heard a Rumour around the ground Chris that both Frankie Sawyer and Richard Rose are our highest paid players both on £300 a week each,whether this is true or not I don't know.
I also heard that the only reason Frankie stayed with us this season was because of the money and also the fact that we were putting together a decent side that had a very good chance of winning the league and taking us back up into the Ryman Premier, at which level he thinks he should be playing.
As Johnw rightly says he is a shadow of a player he was (Probably through injuries) so if he is struggling to score in Ryman South, how is he going to get goals in the Ryman Premier.
I also heard that Josh Pelling only stayed with us because pre season we were supposedly going to walk this league with the players we had, and win promotion automatically.
So if we fail to go up this season surely we will be making a loss financially and where will all these players be next season.