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Well other leagues have applied to the FA for an extension so what is stopping Ryman league.

With the flood warnings in Surrey and surrounding areas, Leatherhead have got to be worried that they may end up with a repeat of the extensive flood that put their home ground out of action recently!

Its also looking very doubtful for our 21s home match being played tomorrow night.

With the amount of water in the ground generally and with the forecast for the next couple of weeks I wouldn't expect to see a great deal of football anywhere realistically for a while. It should be up to the clubs to vote about a season extension that way they can decide if they would rather play 3-4 games a week or pay a couple of weeks extra wages.

Would imagine that crowds would be bigger if matches were spaced out over two extra weeks as well offsetting the extra wages as many people can't or won't be able to attend that many games so close.

by not choosing to extend the season they risk players getting serious injury sand it may also actually cost them more in the end through small crowds....

I think That the Calor league have extendeed. Or have I just made that up?

DaveOrmerod wrote:

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I really think the Ryman League Management will have to look at the possibility of extending the season. We only have two free weeks left this season (w/c April 6th & 13th) and looking at the fixtures of other clubs some have no free weeks. The weather forecast for the rest of this month looks bad so the chances are we could have further matches postponed.

-- Edited by DaveOrmerod on Saturday 8th of February 2014 10:54:13 AM

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We do have another free week. (w/c March 9th)  

Lenny are you saying that when players don't get a game they don't get paid? If that is the case do they get double when they play twice a week? If not that is hardly fair as we are paying twice to go in. No wonder we have struggled to attract players if they don't get double for playing twice.

I thought the players were on pay as you play so if named in 16 man squad for day they get paid

Stevie it would be interesting to know as Lenny's comments suggested that if you play 1 game you get paid, no mention of getting paid twice in a week, and if games are called off you get nothing. Seems very unfair on the players if that's the case, perhaps Lenny can clarify as he seems to know what is going on.

Think you know more than you are telling Lenny as your response to HastingsBuoy was general not specific, I will do as you suggested before and send Mr Walters an email, as I think if we are being asked to pay twice and the players only get paid once it's rather unfair on the players.

Chris think you are talking at crosspurposes a bit and looking for an issue where it doesn't exist.

Am 99.9% certain that players get paid per game as Stevie

Barrie was talking about what happens if the match is called off not payment per game

-- Edited by Dan on Wednesday 12th of February 2014 09:33:53 AM

I personally can't see what it has to do with any of us how the players are paid. They know the deal when they sign for us and by signing for the club in my eyes they are agreeing to the terms. There is no contracts at the club and I honestly don't know what the procedure is and nor do I want to know, it's got nothing to do with me or anyone else, after all are we all prepared to share our payment details on here from our employers? No I don't think we are!

I understand the comment about it not being fair blah blah blah but if in your a salaried employee you wont get any extra for doing a few hours extra work each week when your busy I know I wouldn't.

This really is becoming a mountain out of a molehill and once again being blown out of proportion. Chris if you don't believe me email Dave he may be prepared to tell you how the players are paid he may not, I'm sure if I asked your employee if you have one how you are paid he will say what's it got to do with me? Why don't you trawl through the twitter accounts of players past and present to see whether the conversation happened or not and once you read it come up with your opinion like I did. Absolutely pathetic.

Lenny it does matter to me as a fan, because if we are operating a different way of paying to other clubs, which is deterring players from signing then it does matter and fans should know, I couldn't give a damn how much they get just how. It's not anything to do with being awkward or creating a mountain. Players don't sign for us for a reason and it's not just transport, so what is wrong in looking at other reasons.
I am aware of 4 methods of payment of players at this level.
1) weekly whatever the weather and amount of games.
2) weekly but only if you play
3) per game played.
4) weekly but with extra should you play.

If there are any others and I am sure there are I hope someone can enlighten me.

And why should it be a secret I don't care if people know how I get paid.

Thanks Dan

Hmmmm.....I get the feeling that Mr.Turvey has already booked his holidays.
I really can't see why an extension of one or even two weeks should actually give these league administrators too much of a problem.
There's a three and a half month gap between seasons, fixtures don't come out until when ? Late June ? Mid July ?
Just a bunch of intransigent old gits who don't give a damn about the thousands of players and supporters that this REALLY affects !

I thought the very same Rev.

My interpretation of what Alan "Kevin" Turvey is saying is that that there will be no question of an extension until clubs have scheduled matches for EVERY available Tuesday and Thursday up to that end date of April 26. Only if that happens and there are still unfulfilled fixtures will an extension be considered. We're not anywhere near that point yet and no-one is going to deliberately start arranging two midweek fixtures they don't have to. However a couple more weeks of rain and Thursday matches will definitely start appearing.
However this is desperately unfair on everyone at our level. How can you expect these players, who obviously need to work full time, to play two midweek games, one inevitably involving away travel ?
Basically these people have made up some deadlines to suit themselves.

From what I understand Bandit it is due to the Fa dealing with promotions etc but I agree totally it wouldn't hurt. As I've posted previously players payments are a big factor.

Should we be lucky enough to get in the play offs, our three games a week knackered squad could end playing the fresh as a daisy geographically advantaged guernsey . Sounds fair.