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One of the worries for me is that it has become evident in the past week or so that a couple of players and players family members are now posting on the forum raising the same subject of players being played out of position or not knowing what they are doing.

Maggs has to be given time and has to be allowed to bring his own players in but surely now he must realise half this team are just not good enough at this level, albeit this level is average at best.

I think John needs to be given a chance. He's got his work cut out for sure. Agree we need to strengthen especially FB - sick of seeing us getting whipped down the flanks.

It's a hard job Hastings he the wrong man he too old for the game now were the **** are his contacts terry spoke to me after the game and he felt so sorry for the fans who went. In my lifetime that was the worst performance I've ever seen they was absolutely ****!
We want maggs out campaign!!
Should be Terry white clarent and blue army

I honestly can't believe that people are suggesting Maggs goes already? As Powels has said a side needs time to be built, Rome wasn't built in a day and at least it's the start of the season and we're not in a relegation battle.

Give it time it'll come, But I agree we do need some new players, I know Maggs has made approaches for some good players lets hope that it's not long before we see some new faces. 

-- Edited by Lenny The Lion on Sunday 22nd of September 2013 04:01:11 PM

I'm saying that Maggs deserves a chance.anyway what the hell has that got to do with this thread, I thought it was about Maggs not Sean Ray? 

-- Edited by Lenny The Lion on Sunday 22nd of September 2013 08:00:56 PM

well it's all about opinions isn't It,  similarly some may question your ability of judging people. quite a few people are saying that we are struggling at full back, we have nothing better at the moment so why not give him a chance can't get any worse can it? 

-- Edited by Lenny The Lion on Sunday 22nd of September 2013 11:01:01 PM

I agree John, Danny's work rate is second to none a real midfield worker. If I had to pick out a bad point for him it would be that occasionally he tends to be a little wayward with his passing, I reckon that could be due to tiredness, in my opinion another player like Danny in midfield and not many sides would break us down through the middle. I'd like to see Andy Corrigan get a chance, he was at Eatbourne Borough for a few years as a youth and played in their reserves regularly last season and I know he's a good player, he just needs a chance to prove himself.

Danny Ellis by a mile is our best player surely most of last years fans did not get it wrong??????

The players should always be willing to give 100% for this club and the great support that we have both home and away compared to every club in this league bar Guernsey, Terry and Mark are both still involved so Terry will still have great influence over training and match day events surely?

Yes we picked up the points earlier in the season when performances were not great but we would have come unstuck at some point so Maggs would always be in a hiding to nothing when he suffered defeats.

Faversham was a poor performance made terrible with a crap penalty decision and a goal on the break.

Guernsey was a match that should have been a draw aside from a moment of madness from Edusi

Ok yesterday sounds shocking against a poor side but sounds like the one signing he's brought in had a fairly promising game on his debut compared to the rest.

Give the man time to work his stuff before calling for his head, his record and experience surely deserves that?

I knew nothing about him before his appointment ( a quick google search shows that the guy is considered a but if a non league legend however ) but his straight talking is good to see and has made it clear that only promotion will do for him.

Dan what is his record? I hear people saying how great it is but what has he won I wonder if anyone knows

John Maggs Career Record ( for Chrisb, took a lot of googling! Haha )

Crawley Town

Player ( GK ) at Crawley for 20 years  ( club record 700 appearances ) 

Became manager

1984 - Promotion to Southern Premier ( never relegated after that ) Mostly play off position finishes after that.
Reached 3rd Round of FA Cup lost to Brighton.
1984, 1991, 1993, 1999 Sussex FL Cup ( Winners )
1986 Southern Counties Cup ( Winners )
1990, 1991 Sussex Senior Cup ( Winners )

Became Chairman of Crawley Town & built the Broadfield Stadium before leaving.

Horsham
2001 Sussex FL Cup ( Winners )
2006 Promoted to Ryman Premier ( Never relegated )
2008 Reached FA cup second round - taking Swansea to a replay

Known for attractive winning football, mostly finished in playoff positions, doubled the attendance over his tenure. Also started the new stadium process which has completed this season.

Crawley Down Gatwick
Manager 1 season

Tonbridge Angels - General Manager 

8 other appearances in various other finals for Horsham, not sure how many wins as couldn't find the records.

If terry n mark had lost games I don't think it would of been like this but don't try fix it when it's not broken

agree with comments on other thread that although we won first games we could have lost them. dont fix it if its not broken! Ridiculous, the false position we were in was papering over the cracks, our luck has run out and now reality is hitting. the team assembled over summer was lightweight and good enough only for a mid table finish at best. Maggs has his work cut out and talk of promotion this season is optimistic as cant see better players being available until some clubs have to cut there wages. agree with fatherxmas that some people only happy with turmoil. think as supporters we need to be patient

FAO: johnw

I witnessed the Ray comeback at Bexhill last week,it went like this

 

A every quiet 1st half

In the 2nd half it was the same old Ray,he got booked for saying something to the ref and then was involved in a scramble in the penalty and and he seemed to bring down a Bexhill player to give away a penalty. The ref should have sent him off but ducked the idea,a Ryman ref would have sent him on his way. As the the half wore on he lost the ball regularly when not under any pressure. By the end it looked like he needed a double hip or knee opp as he gingerly walked off.

I know it was his first game for some months but it was County league 2 some 4 divisions lower than  Ryman prem 

I would not expect him back this side of Christmas thank god.

He found his level at last.

Just remember he assembled our current squad of players and said that he was well pleased with what he's got. 

Please don't blame Mr Maggs. I am sure he knew from day one the squad was well below strength so what makes people think he can make these players into a promotion squad.

 

 

-- Edited by Barry on Monday 23rd of September 2013 05:54:23 PM

Not sure mate, know he was playing 2-3 games for E/B Utd to get fitness up but not sure when he will be back yet

I wouldn't play Ray at all, you can't have an ex-manager in the dressing room.

As for Maggs' record, I would say virtually every manager in the game would settle for that.  How many managers get one promotion in their career let alone two, not very many.

Yeah were was akwasi edesui, Tom Gilbert Jordan Woodley

Looking in from the outside you will often find a new manager in any industry not just football will take stock of what he already has there when he arrives then make decisions are for the best moving forward.

They might not be decisions everyone likes or agrees with, but John Maggs's reputation speaks for itself. It was only 6 weeks ago alot of supporters on here were calling for Sean Ray to go....you got your wish.

The same supporters on here were then backing John Maggs as the next Hastings manager, those also got there wish.

The same supporters on here were also commenting that although the side had started well ppints wise and were winning games early on the squad still needed to be improved if a promotion challenge was to be the end result......but it is the same supporters that are now moaning that the squad is being overhauled.

I visit this forum regularly but seldom post, the supporters need to get behind the current management team, the club has no divine right to be promoted straight back up to the Ryman Premier, but they will have a better chance if the supporters get behind the manager and players.

Football is all about opinions, but give the guy a chance.

-- Edited by RedorBlue on Friday 27th of September 2013 07:53:47 AM

heres Rimmer looking amongst his collection for it right now!   "I know I've seen it here somewhere"

-- Edited by Lenny The Lion on Friday 27th of September 2013 02:14:29 PM

- Just because you dont want to play for John Maggs doesnt mean that nobody does surely? I cant believe some of the stuff thats being written to be honest. A new manager was always going to be changing things. Lots of people wanted that a few weeks ago so you cant really complain when it happens. either that or be careful what you wish for! I'm really gutted to see Mark go but wish him all the best for the future. A legend in my book. JM has a lot of work to do and its absolutely right that supporters express their concerns, but seriously give the man a chance to implement the changes that we desperately need.

Totally agree Chris - its natural that there will be doubts from all of us but as you say he needs a chance.

See in the Observer Mr Wenger had 5 French trialists down at the Pilot Field last night. Any news on how any of them looked?

Good to see those that have been released are still in John's future plans as well.

Sorry to disappoint you Sindy but I understand one of them is called Alain Sasha Davide Henri Le Mare Boulangerie

Une Stella Artois sil vous plait - I believe has signed for us...

Ha ha! Just waiting for Chrisb now to say Mr Artois just isn't good enough for Ryman south and Rimmer to say he's got footage of Mr sacre Bleu on one of his naughty dvds

I just believe the club can do so much better and I am disappointed with the exit of stapley. He puts 100% effort in for the players and ofcourse us fans so that we enjoy our days at the pilot field every Saturday.

Good shout John I was about to do the same.

Nous demande un recreation de les dog's bolleaux - je refaire, of course, a le Legend Landry Zahana-Oni!

Well sorry but I have to say I do not have any faith in Maggs. He is just wrecking our club and it is making me really angry. I am sticking by what I said a few weeks ago in that Terry & Mark should have been kept as management. All I can hope is that Maggs gets pushed sooner rather than later as I have no respect for him whatsoever.

Becks1, Maggs is a very experienced bloke in football, non-league and management. I respect the decisions that he's made so far and what he's done to the club, whether or not I agree with it. Due to his sheer amount of experience, I have 100% faith in him.

Also, having faith and respect are two totally different things. Maggs hasn't had much time to make a huge impact on the playing side of things and only time will tell what he can achieve there. However, the decisions that he's made with the dismissal of certain member of staff will have an effect on the play of the team. I can't agree more with Pat, every game we are showing strength and character in each department - every team has their 'off' days, and it seems that each time we have an 'off' day, everyone looses the faith that was restored after one win. A controversial thing for me to say, of course, but somehow that's how it comes across to me. I fully support John Maggs' decisions as he carries a wealth of experience and knows what he wants to do and knows how he can go about achieving that.

I very rarely comment on the forum although after the Merstham game I really felt the need to.I think after that shambles my emotions were quite raw and I questioned the managers credentials,like many others.But a week is a long time in football and after going to Herne Bay on Tuesday and watching a solid performance which was obviously backed up yesterday at Walton Casuals my opinions have changed.Let's hope we can push on with a result against Leatherhead tomorrow night before opinion changes again.Come on you U's

Good to see maggsy motivated on the touchline think we may still be few players short think razor be a big boost when fit again but believe we missing a holding midfielder every game tim hasn't played or has come off there a big gap between Df n mf can't just rely on him